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Comment expliquer pourquoi la vie privée (électronique) compte[Bearbeiten]

La plupart des geeks ont actuellement (2014) des difficultés pour expliquer à leur famille et amis pourquoi la vie privée compte. Par exemple : "pourquoi utiliser Facebook est une mauvaise idée".

Cette page est faite pour recevoir des idées et arguments, choses à leur montrer, afin de leur donner une idée de ce que nous (geeks) voulons dire.


Comment répondre à l'argument "Je n'ai rien à cacher"[Bearbeiten]

Quand vous ne vous protégez pas vous-même (ex: votre ordinateur) vous laissez aussi vos amis se faire espionner par les messages qu'ils vous envoient.

  • As he/she has nothing to hide, ask him/her very private questions. He will no answer to all. Then tell he lying, he has things to hide to some people. His/her sentence should be "I have have nothing to... corporation(s)/governement(s)", then the sentence become very strange, notice him/her that and to think about.

Simple arguments like "I have nothing to hide" are hard to defend against. This is why they are so effective. Consider that people generally want to be polite and avoid trouble.

  • Requests to share information, like from social media, are worded in a friendly, nonthreatening manner. There seems to be no reason to guard against these requests. Corporations involved in data mining have ulterior motives, but not every body believes that. Sharing your distrust with others may make you seem paranoid to them. They may start to distrust you or even become your enemy. Think before you start getting confrontational with others.
  • Requests from authorities are very threatening. People want to end confrontations like this as quickly as possible. They may neglect more appropriate actions by attempting to prove their innocence. While not always true (why?), people should not try to prove their innocence. Transparency is foolish with these adversaries. You will become guarded when asked about truly sensitive information. Ending participation at a certain point in conversations is an admission.

Comment expliquer rapidement pourquoi Google n'est PAS votre ami[Bearbeiten]

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Visitez avec eux l'URL de la page suivante : (ceci est l'historique de leurs recherches, votre ami verra que Google a une énorme mémoire et se rappelle des choses que lui-même a oublié).

Comment répondre à l'argument "C'est trop tard, il n'y pas d'alternative"[Bearbeiten]

Hummingbird dit: il y a des alternatives mais vous ignorez qu'elles existent. Pourquoi ? : dans notre système économique, accumuler des données fait gagner de l'argent, vous apprendre à y échapper coûte de l'argent, vous apprendre à y échapper coute de l'argent. C'est pourquoi vous aurez à chercher ce genre de connaissance par vous-même.

Comment leur expliquer d'être prudents avec les services web gratuits[Bearbeiten]

Repeat and repeat (and explain) the sentence: "If you are not paying for it, you're not the customer; you're the product being sold." (Andrew Lewis, wrote later a book (Goodies shop).

Montez leur la super image Le "modèle gratuit" (The "Free" Model) dessiné parGeek & Pokes (2010). Au sujet du business model employé par les entreprises internet fournissant des services gratuitement.

Commentaire supplémentaire :

Le paiement pour un service n'exclut pas le risque d'être vendu comme un produit. En fait, il faut réfléchir soigneusement à quelle est la raison pour avoir confiance en un quelconque service. S'il y a un service Web gratuit, il faut chercher la réponse à la question : "Pourquoi l'offrent-ils gratuitement et comment trouvent-ils de l'argent pour payer leurs factures ?"

There also exists the freemium business model, which focuses on upselling premium services. For maximizing the revenue there must be a balance of about 15%-18% paying users and 85%-82% free users. This allocation seems to be optimal for spreading the utilization of the service and creating the highest revenue. (As stated, for example, in the book "Free: The Future of a Radical Price" (ISBN-13: 978-1401322908 / ISBN-10: 1401322905))

Comment comprendre pourquoi si peu de personnes agissent contre la perte de leur vie privée[Bearbeiten]

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Throughout human history, injustices have been normalized and accepted by mainstream society. According to Marx, nearly every social norm and custom is deeply rooted in the prevailing socioeconomic system, or mode of production. To be simplistic, slavery was acceptable in slave society because the economy depended on it, nearly all existing institutions (including the state) endorsed it, and quite simply put, it was profitable. The same applies to feudalism and to our modern capitalist society. It's profitable to sell people's personal information to the highest bidder and the state is okay with this because it too violates people's right to privacy on a massive scale. It's just "the way things are" and like slavery, people just don't care enough about it either because it doesn't effect them enough or because they have been conditioned by society think it is okay. Abolitionists in early America were radicals just as privacy activists are today. Another way to look at it: imagine being aware of the necessity of soap in the 15th century. You understand how viruses work, how bacteria spreads, how it's all around us as a fundamental part of the world we live in but no one seems to care or believe germs are as bad as you say they are. A strange example, but an interesting one. -Red


Contenus éducatifs[Bearbeiten]


  • 2003: The Corporation. If you still think that large companies are reasonables, so they will not do things too much unpleasant to their (ex)customers.
  • 2013: "A counter history about the internet". IMDB page about this movie. This movie only exist in French ("Une contre-histoire de l'Internet") and German ("Eine Gegengeschichte der Internetze"), but a english subtitles file exist:
    Use iMule ;)


Wikipedia (articles en général)[Bearbeiten]

Matériaux de divertissement[Bearbeiten]



Matériaux éducatifs et de divertissement[Bearbeiten]

(en) Une lettre de la part d'Anonymous (2010. Surtout au sujet de la liberté d'expression et de la censure sur internet)[Bearbeiten]

  • Sur iMule:
  • Sur Youtube

Ressources pour les geeks[Bearbeiten]